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Re: Which motha fuckin laptop motha fucka?
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2014, 11:38:46 PM »
Dunno if its any use but it sounds cool ; http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-48NT8D
There is this ; http://www.linux-laptop.net/

Apart from that most macbooks are kinda linux compat.
Mine is almost entirely nvidia (non hybrid GPU) eventhough the installation with UEFI is a complete soab its working awesome out-of-the-box , only sad thing is the wireless broadcom shit,  required some tweaking blacklisting etc but it is working flawlessly atm.

My 3 year old high-end Asus is working brilliantly on linux, only trouble was the hybrid graphics, when I started that shit there was barely any support for the whole optimus nightmare (thanks nvidia, whores) as soon as bumblebee came around and  I got the power consumption under control it is great.
It is still working 100% and due to the crazy tweaks I did on the powerconsumtion it still outlasts windows this very day (4,5+ hours , low cpu load) It is a powerbeast though , even for today's standards.
(I am very nice to the battery though , I only push it through (almost) full load cycles)

Basically you wanna go intel , intel and intel and intel.
There is no other way to put it.
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Re: Which motha fuckin laptop motha fucka?
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2014, 11:44:07 PM »
I'd rather not spend all that money on a Mac, even if I was planning on installing linux on it. I'd also rather not even bother messing with UEFI, even if it is possible to install linux with UEFI.

Thanks a thousand times for that link.

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EDIT: I do prefer intel to be quite honest. I always thought atheros was real good for linux too though.
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Re: Which motha fuckin laptop motha fucka?
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2014, 12:45:01 AM »
Don't be scared of UEFI... I speak from experiance

Quote from: Lenovo Forum
Question: Why GRUB is not installing properly in my machine?
Answer: New machines have UEFI capable bios. This means that by default MS Windows is installed in UEFI mode and this requires a GPT formatted Hard Disk. At the present GRUB cannot install itself in GPT partition table. Some new distros, with kernel 3.0 and above are reported to support UEFI.

Question: How to make GRUB work in my machine?
Answer: You should convert your HDD from GPT partition table to MBR partition table (or MSDOS in Linux) and after that install your Linux OS.

Question: How can I convert my HDD from GPT to MBR partition table?
Answer: You can use Ubunu or another Ubuntu based distro in live mode. In live mode, find the program GPARTED. Wait until it recognizes all your drives and select your HDD. Right click over it, and choose the option to create a new partition table. Choose MSDOS from the list. Hit ok than apply/commit all changes. ATTENTION this will erase all your data and MS Windows (or any other OS) will disappear. Your HDD is now converted in MSDOS or MBR. You can now boot your preferred distro, create your partition scheme and install Linux.

Question: Do I need to make any changes to my bios settings?
Answer: If you have a capable UEFI and LEGACY bios, put the bios in Legacy boot only or Both enabled with Legacy boot first.

http://outlet.lenovo.com/outlet_us/itemdetails/59RF0422/445
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Re: Which motha fuckin laptop motha fucka?
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2014, 02:40:18 AM »
Ok, I am in between these two now:

link
and
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Both Lenovo, they both have Intel chipsets, and they both have pretty similar specs all around. No HDMI on either I don't think, because Lenovo evidentally doesn't approve of or understand HDMI. Still deciding but I'm narrowing it down.

EDIT: Goddamnit, neither of those have any USB3.0 ports either. Lenovo is kind of limited in that aspect. No hdmi, no usb 3... I wouldn't be able to use my external drive with it at all then.

Is Lenovo really the only good laptop out there? No matter what, it seems like every laptop brand in the world is bad when I ask people.

"How are HPs?"
Oh those sucks and their hardware sucks

"How are Dells?
Oh those suck and they will break

"How are anything?"
Oh those suck and they will break and their hardware sucks.

Is lenovo really the only fucking manufacturer in the world that has the capability to produce a halfway decent product that won't crumble to pieces in a year?
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Re: Which motha fuckin laptop motha fucka?
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2014, 04:33:17 AM »
Ok, I am in between these two now:

link
and
link

Both Lenovo, they both have Intel chipsets, and they both have pretty similar specs all around. No HDMI on either I don't think, because Lenovo evidentally doesn't approve of or understand HDMI. Still deciding but I'm narrowing it down.

EDIT: Goddamnit, neither of those have any USB3.0 ports either. Lenovo is kind of limited in that aspect. No hdmi, no usb 3... I wouldn't be able to use my external drive with it at all then.

Is Lenovo really the only good laptop out there? No matter what, it seems like every laptop brand in the world is bad when I ask people.

"How are HPs?"
Oh those sucks and their hardware sucks

"How are Dells?
Oh those suck and they will break

"How are anything?"
Oh those suck and they will break and their hardware sucks.

Is lenovo really the only fucking manufacturer in the world that has the capability to produce a halfway decent product that won't crumble to pieces in a year?

Lenovo = IBM

So yeah they boss

HP & Compaq - money better spent on porn when its freely available to download
Toshiba - Decent
ASUS - Good (high end)
Dell - only good as alienware or xps varients
Gateway - wut?!?! They're still allowed to make computers
Acer - Decent for the money, but Lenovo kind of made Acer be blah

Everyone has had their opinions and personal favorites. From my experiance when I buy a laptop its either a Lenovo, ASUS, Acer, or Toshiba. People have problems with these but all laptops will have problems. I've done laptop repair professionally and 80% of laptops with "sorry you need to shell out $$$$" is HP and Compaq. Dells HDs usually crash after a year or 2 unless alienware or xps (out of your price range) Gateway has been shit as far back as I can remember. At one time or another I have recently worked with all of these brands.

ASUS - Work netbook
Lenovo - Personal
Dell - 2 friends both sitting in my garage with dead hard drives different models
Acer - had one screen broke, inexperienced tried to replace screen fucked up and ripped ribbons, gave up; also had a netbook good bang for buck
HP/Compaq - several friends and family buy these against my advice and come to me a few months later wishing they listened
Toshiba - Just set up 2 that had UEFI BIOS (usb 3 + hdmi) threw windows 7 and I tested with kali, worked just fine; have owned several one screen broke other is still working but old
Gateway - my late grandma owned one and was a POS then as it is now

Don't worry about UEFI, all new models have it, legacy is still on them and you just need to format the HD away from GPT.

As far as WiFi, $20 gets you a TPLink adapter with an ath9k chipset

Hope that helps
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Re: Which motha fuckin laptop motha fucka?
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2014, 04:41:43 AM »
Indeed it does. So, for me it would be between Lenovo and Asus. My girlfriend had an Acer netbook, and it's dead now. Granted, she took shit care of it. For some reason though, everytime I ever think about getting an Acer laptop I find myself feeling all bad inside. I'd rather just stay away from them. Too much Windows support, and seemingly no linux. Her computer never ran linux well.

As for Asus, well, I'm so pissed about the shit quality of the screens that I don't think I want to give them anymore money. Plus, most people say they are only good high-end. So fuck that noise.

Lenovo it is. Too bad they don't have newer laptops with good specs that aren't $1000.

EDIT: I actually just discovered that my external 3.0 works on this Asus' 2.0 ports. It takes like a fill minute for the device to detect it but whatever. So now the only thing that's a bummer about the T420 is that it has no HDMI, and I guess I can get over that.
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Re: Which motha fuckin laptop motha fucka?
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2014, 05:05:48 AM »
USB 3 devices should work on powered USB ports, you just won't get that great speed you do with USB 3. This model from tigerdirect looks like it may have an HDMI port:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8896736&CatId=17
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Re: Which motha fuckin laptop motha fucka?
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2014, 05:09:28 AM »
That's funny. That's actually the one I'm pretty sure I've finally decided on only minutes before reading your post. I don't believe it has HDMI, but it does have one powered USB port, and it has a display port. I am pretty sure there is displayport > hdmi converters.

So that's it then. I think it's going to be the Lenovo T420. It's got everything else I want. The RAM and CPU are up to snuff, it's got an acceptable hard drive, Win7, and the best part is that it's all Intel. So it should most likely have good compatability with linux, and injections etc. Hope I made the right choice.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2014, 05:09:51 AM by lucid »
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