[Arch Linux] [Solved]

[Sparky712]

To get some actual help, rather than just rant, I thought this should be posted here as well. attempting install of Arch linux, get as far as setting up wireless connection. see, i can manage to find my router. but I cannot connect to it, because, it seems, I have a 5 digit WEP code. and Arch says WEP keys need at least 8. well.... my ISP changed it to 5 digits, so the whole family could connect to the router. How can I fix this problem? the arch linux pages have been no help, partially, i think, because it is not a problem with the distriubution itself.
To be honest, if I cannot get this problem fixed, I will have to choose another distribution, however, I was hoping to use this one, as it is a better setup for learning linux CLI than Ubuntu, or mint. so, any assistance would be greatly thanked.. I am not a competent linux user. yet.

[proxx]

Uhm first of all I need to know what manager your using for connecting.
Otherwise there is little to say.

You did a full arch install yourself?

[lucid]

Well, to be honest. I always installed Arch using a wired connection and configured the wireless connection later.

And yeah we need to know why you are using. I'm guessing you don't have wicd or anything like that because you said that you are in the process of the install still?

[Sparky712]

im using the default manager... i put in wifi-menu wlan0 and according to their own wiki, that is netcfg. And yeah, lucid, still in the process of install, just using what I have. and no, not entirely myself, I am following the guides to set it up, reading as much as I can as I go along, proxx, i wont be able to do it otherwise  . and trying to use a wired connection is slightly odd, as i will be continually bouncing between rooms to check what im doing.

[proxx]

Ah I see ur using netcfg, that clears up a lot.
And I also use the official install guide since they change a lot of stuff all the time.

I would also suggest you use a wired connection for the base install.

However WEP can be setup using iwconfig by itself.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/HowToWifiFromCommandWEP
Take a look at this for example.

After establishing the connection youll need to get yourself an IP address.

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dhcpcd wlan0
(as root)

Funny you really have a WEP encryption configured by your ISP ?
They must be retarded.

[techb]

If it is 5 digits, I want to assume it is 64bit encryption using ASCIII not the standard hex format, that might be the issue. Your probably not using hex which might be an option in there somewhere when setting up your wireless connection.

[Sparky712]

iv'e tried setting it up making sure it knew it was ascii code... it would not have any of it. accepted the password like that, but I can't actually get a connection. i type in the ip command, I get nothing, and it doesnt work.
also, I have tried archlinux's manual setup tuts, they did not help at all.
Yeah, I am guessing I will have to somehow set up a direct connection. (ethernet into the router is fine, im sure?)

[Snayler]

Have you tried converting your password from ASCII to hexadecimal and using it as the password? Also, I would advise you to change the router's encryption since WEP it's proven to be vulnerable for years now.

[Sparky712]

snayler... never mind the encryption being vulnerable, the ISP gave us a damn stupid simple pass to use. and I would change the encryption, but im not in control of the router. and i reall cannot be asked to persuade the people who are. I just barricade my end as much as I can. also... my hexadecimal is the same as my ascii... just double length. >.<


EDIT: thanks to all of you, using a mix of what you have told me, i have now installed arch linux

[techb]

We have modem/routers at work that are remote access only (just had a cx today with one), but they are usually always biz with a static IP. If they log into the modem, they break their contract, stupid I know. You could, if you didn't want the vice grips from your ISP, is to get your own router and have them put the modem in bridge-mode.