EvilZone
Community => General discussion => Topic started by: ande on February 26, 2013, 12:28:23 AM
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Hello there Evilzone!
So, for some time now myself, a friend of mine and some of the staff here have been talking about EvilShop.
EvilShop will be a online "store" owned and operated by Evilzone staff. The full idea is not yet complete but here are a few ides that has been discussed.
- The regular stuff: T-shirts, stickers, posters and whatnot
- DIY electronics
- All your wifu needs, wifi cards, routers, gadgets
- All your bluefu needs, bluetooth stuff
- Other pen-testing hardware
- All your lockpicking needs, picks, locks
- Other geeky cool gadgets
And on top of this, we will have package deals like wifi packages and picklocking packages which can be anything from beginners package to a complete package with everything you need to get into wifi penetration and picklocking and [insert more cool stuff here].
And in addition to this we can offer Evilzone editions of various products we can customize in one way or another.
So! What this thread is all about is to see if there is a market for all of this. Its not like there are no stores like this on the internet. What we can offer is a serious store with products from all over the place centralized here. And Evilzone edition products in some cases.
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Yes, definitely! Go for it!
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Nice! Can't wait to see this rolling. You have my support.
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It could be possible if you are just selling T-shirts and stickers. But for the other stuff, they can be acquired at local stores and on online shops,so I don't see the point of buying some hardware peripherals from an underground website. Unless you are selling them with a discount.
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That is a great idea, i must say.
(http://0.static.wix.com/media/cacf98_28b67a31cfa03f4bd3b0029a9275c26f.jpg_256)
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I can make hardware kits. If shit gets serious and we provide embedded platforms, I might make an embedded hacking OS, like backtrack for raspberryPi or something.
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I can make hardware kits. If shit gets serious and we provide embedded platforms, I might make an embedded hacking OS, like backtrack for raspberryPi or something.
You mean like pwnpi?
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You mean like pwnpi?
Yeah, but it will be Arch based instead of Debian.
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Hell yeah, I need a new lockpick set anyways :P
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Yeah, but it will be Arch based instead of Debian.
Ooo a decent Arch distro for my Pi would be nice
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Ooo a decent Arch distro for my Pi would be nice
I said "like" the Pi, I have a BeagleBoard Rev C5 but can be ported.
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I said "like" the Pi, I have a BeagleBoard Rev C5 but can be ported.
Oh, guess I read it wrong
That would be cool though, I have two Raspberry Pi's I could do testing or whatever you need
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Oh, guess I read it wrong
That would be cool though, I have two Raspberry Pi's I could do testing or whatever you need
Yeah, could use you to compile or something for the port. But this is getting off topic lol.
As for the shop, I think it is a great idea, but I don't think it will catch on. I do want some shirts and stickers though. Oh and coffee mugs, I want EZ coffee mugs =), then we should go from there.
Also, would proceedings go to EZ or just the admins? Or how would money be handled, I know this is kinda a prying question, just wanted to know where the money would go :o .
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I would buy if I need something, but the import duties are shit over here. Around 18% :(. Will need to find some way around.
although, i'd also say that you could allow users to sell stuff too from the store.
and, ez will have to be publicized a lot for you guys to stay afloat.
A new domain too, for obvious reasons.
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Yeah, could use you to compile or something for the port. But this is getting off topic lol.
As for the shop, I think it is a great idea, but I don't think it will catch on. I do want some shirts and stickers though. Oh and coffee mugs, I want EZ coffee mugs =), then we should go from there.
Also, would proceedings go to EZ or just the admins? Or how would money be handled, I know this is kinda a prying question, just wanted to know where the money would go :o .
We will start small and work our way upwards. Members can make product suggestions and so forth. This will be quite a large investment for me if we put up a hundred products on release date :P
As for the money: For sure some of the profits will go to EZ. I mean, I already pay about 120-150$ a month to keep it running smoothly, so just getting that covered would be awesome. If we profit good from it there will always be things to expand. Our own DNS server, challenge server(s), dedicated upload hosting server etc etc.
I would buy if I need something, but the import duties are shit over here. Around 18% :( . Will need to find some way around.
although, i'd also say that you could allow users to sell stuff too from the store.
and, ez will have to be publicized a lot for you guys to stay afloat.
A new domain too, for obvious reasons.
We can mark the packages as gifts OR just set the price of it to like 10$ :P
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Ande, your t-shirt, tattoo, etc might get sold but i dont think anyone will bye hardwair from here, everyone will buy from trusted online stores(since these are expensive stuff) unless we do some major moderating to it(making it advanced) insted of just placing an EZ logo on top of it(besides they will think we keep logs of credit card passwords and stuff). So i think selling programs(non malicious) like pen testing tools, advanced drivers for avarag hardwair(to improve performance), and online services like, online rar, zip, pdf, etc password cracking and Even selling our own ebooks makes more sense than selling hardwair. So Ande, ill stay neutral and wait for more info about this store.
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I suggest we also allow the more trusted/well-known members sell their own products.
Ande, your t-shirt, tattoo, etc might get sold but i dont think anyone will bye hardwair from here, everyone will buy from trusted online stores(since these are expensive stuff) unless we do some major moderating to it(making it advanced) insted of just placing an EZ logo on top of it(besides they will think we keep logs of credit card passwords and stuff). So i think selling programs(non malicious) like pen testing tools, advanced drivers for avarag hardwair(to improve performance), and online services like, online rar, zip, pdf, etc password cracking and Even selling our own ebooks makes more sense than selling hardwair. So Ande, ill stay neutral and wait for more info about this store.
I've seen plenty of sites similar to this that sell hacking hardware and they seem to get good business. Though I do agree that selling software would be a bit more profitable, I think hardware is a must.
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Make skiddy tools
Make uncrackable licensing system
Sell skiddy tools with unique license codes
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Profit
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I would love a shirt or hat or something for EZ, another suggestion (which may have already been suggested) is services. Pay a flat rate per file to get the crypted, or buy php shells. That being said, I believe HF does that too, and we all know how we feel about them. There are lots of options, but we not only have to look at profit vs production cost but also what reputation we get. No matter, I support it anyways :)
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Software is supposed to be free. I dont like the idea of selling it. We'll see.
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Software is supposed to be free. I dont like the idea of selling it. We'll see.
Agreed! And congrats on your 2000th post.
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Very awesome idea. I agree with most people in regards to the hardware. It's most common for people to buy their hardware from shops they've bought from before / shops that are more well known.
On the other hand, you could treat hardware differently. People could sell their homebrewed hardware stuffies (that PwnPI that was mentioned before is a good example) and not only make some money off of their work, but maybe they will create the next big thing! Basically it would support hardware development for those that are interested in creating devices to assist in hacking.
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Yes please, this is a really good idea!
Will give the website some money and keep us running. ;D
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Software is supposed to be free. I dont like the idea of selling it. We'll see.
While I agree that software SHOULD be free, but if somebody worked very hard to make a program for others to use, he should recieve some kind of compensation for his work.
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Do not start that "software should be free herpaderp" discussion here, please....
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I am sorry but somehow this thread reminded me of Flikka. :/ but I want a I <3 EZ t-shirt.
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My special mug recently broke so I'd love a EZ mug replacement and a t-shirt!
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I really like this idea and would support it
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I'd love to buy things if I'll have money. Nice idea Ande. ;) ;)
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I would love a T-shirt and mouse pad ^_^
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I am not one to bump often, but still need a bit more data/comments/ideas on this one.
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I am not one to bump often, but still need a bit more data/comments/ideas on this one.
I think the poll says volumes.
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OMG this is an awesome idea.
This would be awesome all the different things that you can use to hack in one place no freiking searching around on all the online stores :D PLEASE PLEASE ANDE MAKE THIS A REALITY.
Gr33n.
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OMG this is an awesome idea.
This would be awesome all the different things that you can use to hack in one place no freiking searching around on all the online stores :D PLEASE PLEASE ANDE MAKE THIS A REALITY.
Gr33n.
Where did you come from? I remember you posting like 5 or 6 months ago but then you disappeared o.o
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Where did you come from? I remember you posting like 5 or 6 months ago but then you disappeared o.o
Umm yeah I have been off and on when my school work load gets to high but I am thinking I am going to be staying around even then so you will be seeing a lot more of me :D
hahah 6 months? I think it would have been more like every month I post something here.
Gr33n.
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Just as a sample what I imagine when I hear EvilShop :) We should have awesome stuff like they have (guess everybody knows it already) http://hakshop.myshopify.com/
Btw. we need a hot chick like they have to make video tutorials and explain security related topics... lol.
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Btw. we need a hot chick like they have to make video tutorials and explain security related topics... lol.
Haha maybe Deque would like to contribute on that part? xD
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Btw. we need a hot chick like they have to make video tutorials and explain security related topics... lol.
Sherren is awesome, she actually knows sec and pen testing etc.
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Haha maybe Deque would like to contribute on that part? xD
let's ask techb if he'll lend us fable.
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let's ask techb if he'll lend us fable.
She's still alive?
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She's still alive?
what, is she dead?
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what, is she dead?
Wait, techb is a girl???
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Wait, techb is a girl???
Wait, you can't read?
let's ask techb if he'll lend us fable.
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Wait, you can't read?
Wait, you can't read what I read?
She's still alive?
what, is she dead?
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@silenthunter: Dude, they were talking about fable. 'she' is used for 'fable' not 'techb'.
@ande: I have one question, and that is how'll you send your articles worldwide and does that cost according to the currency of the country or it'll cost as much as it cost in the EvilShop's country? I mean if it cost $500, will it cost $500 in all other countries or it'll cost according to their currency?
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@silenthunter: Dude, they were talking about fable. 'she' is used for 'fable' not 'techb'.
@ande: I have one question, and that is how'll you send your articles worldwide and does that cost according to the currency of the country or it'll cost as much as it cost in the EvilShop's country? I mean if it cost $500, will it cost $500 in all other countries or it'll cost according to their currency?
Prices will most likely be in Euro or USD. Whatever currency you convert that from, I don't care as long as the output to EvilShop is correct in EUR/USD. We will probably do like most shops, free shipping when you reach a certain amount. AKA whenever we cannot profit from you, you have to pay. That's just have it is I am afraid. We are not a big shop.
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Any estimate on when you are planning on making it live?
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Same time as the Alpha project, at the latest, the end of the summer.
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Awesome ... looking forward to it :)